Part 2

The Disney Men, on: 

Fantasia – pretentious or brilliant?

Jo: So, apparently there were quite a few critics that suggested Walt Disney’s Fantasia was quite pretentious. Walt always swore that he would never make a movie like that and was devastated. What did you think of it?

Nathan: I'll let Alex go first.

Alex: I mean, those critics can go f**k themselves. In my personal opinion.

Jo: You liked Fantasia then?

Alex: You put classical music score to an animated movie and suddenly you're pretentious. I'm sorry, let's throw in some cheesy pop music so we're down with the average Joe. Tossers. I love fantasia. One of my favourite Disney movies.

Jo: According to a documentary I saw, Fantasia was the first project he got excited about since Snow White. Cinderella was being made around about the same time but he wasn’t interested.

Nathan: Cinderella is amazing. I don't understand his feelings on his own films. Fantasia is probably my least favourite Disney movie. And I saw cars 2.

Alex: Least? How could fantasia be your least favourite? With all the crap coming out recently?! Okay, now we have something. Let's do this.

Jo: It was super arty .... can’t imagine many kids liked it.

Alex: Who gives a flying f**k about the kids? It's like Star Wars ep 1, 2, and 3. They made them kid friendly to the detriment of the saga.

Nathan: What crap are you talking about? We are talking about wizard Mickey - basically, conducting a show, dancing broomsticks? Pretentious. As. F**k. I feel like fantasia is the yellow submarine of Disney.

Alex: As opposed to Mickey's more accurate characterization as a f**king chartered accountant? He's a talking mouse! Who previously was seen operating a boat.

Jo: It doesn’t really have a story though, that’s why I'm a bit confused by the movie.

Nathan: It basically is meant for you to take drugs with.

Alex: It's got lots of little stories. He took modern cinema and movie production and brought some of the most classic masterpieces to the modern screen.

Nathan: So does ‘Love Actually’, but 3/4 of that film sucks too.

Alex: He couldn’t make a whole movie based on Debussy' Clair de lune. Hence the short stories.

Nathan: ...or you could just not make it.

Alex: Definitely agree that it's good to watch on drugs though! The mouse was what started his career progression so he must have been excited about making a feature length with him. But... Debussy.

Nathan: I've never seen it on drugs.

Alex: I watched it stoned once. I don’t think you need drugs, it’s a bit of a mind f**k that could tip you over the edge.

Nathan: That's why you need drugs. To make sense of random shit.

Alex: ^ word. Disney also relied largely on remaking classic stories into movies. He had something to work with. The mouse didn't have a story.

Nathan: I'm sorry but avant garde cartoons are not my idea of a good time.

Alex: For a great time try watching apocalypse now on mute while playing dark side of the moon. While high obviously. I think making Fantasia was courageous.

Nathan: Fantasia could have basically been directed by Lars von trier and I'm not sure it would have been that different.

RIGHT THEN ... SEEMS AS THOUGH I HIT A NERVE.